2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Review: Outdated But Reliable Truck With Powerful Engines

Alex Showalter
Apr 19, 2022

The 2005 Silverado 1500 lasts over 250,000 miles with some speedometer and steering issues. At $4,200 – $12,125, it’s expensive, but a dependable choice.

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likeFilled The Good
The V8 engines offer great towing performance, the 4WD system is very good and the cabin is quiet.
dislikeFilled The Bad
Passenger room is cramped in the extended cab, the interior has a lot of plastic and there are some frame rust issues.

Is the 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 a Good Used Truck?

  • Yes, 2005 is a good year. Owners like the spacious crew cab, smooth suspension, and responsive engines.
  • Reliability ratings are above average. Silverado’s from 20032008 all had a similar number of problems with some mechanical improvements in 2009 which made them more reliable.
  • Performance is poor from the V6 engine, but the V8s are all good choices.
  • The Silverado is a safe truck, earning 4 out of 5 stars in government crash tests.
  • Fuel economy is good given its size, at up to 17 MPG combined.

Positive Owner Reviews

accountCircle Kevin E
Pros and Cons of 2005 Chevrolet Silverado
The vehicle has been a mechanically sound vehicle he entire time I have owned it. But the body began rusted early on it. And required repairs just after just a few years.
accountCircle Caelin C
Chevys are durable and long lasting. I feel safe and comfortable knowing that a Chevy is the care I need to get me to and from where I am going.
I love everything about my truck. It has 200,000 miles on it and it still travels well! I would most definitely invest in another Chevy after this one.
accountCircle Astrid C
It's reliable. Great on gas. The parts are easy to find.
The matts are hard to find. No other complaints. I love my truck wouldn't trade it for the world.
accountCircle Russ T
Pleasure to own and to drive.
It's been a great vehicle. It looks good, rides great, is comfortable and is a pleasure to drive. It has been relatively maintenance free.
accountCircle Riley B
It is a good vehicle. I enjoy driving it and how it looks.
I like that it is a bigger vehicle because I drive on the interstate a lot. I like that it can hold a lot of stuff in the backseat. I like having a box to haul stuff in.
accountCircle sharon w
It has very low mileage and has been well taken care of compared to other 2005 vehicles.
I like it because I sit up higher, therefore I can easily see out when driving. It's easy to drive. There is really nothing I dislike about it.
accountCircle Lauren M
It's very dependable, long lasting truck.
It's a work model truck so there is no carpet. Which I really like because you can just sweep the dirt out.
accountCircle Anthony P
Runs forever. Has good engine. Longest running vehicle around.
Love trucks. Chevy is best. Fast,comfortable. Four doors

Negative Owner Reviews

accountCircle Russell S
Rusting problem 05 Silverado
I bought the truck brand new and from day one the truck is gutless it will not spin a tire not that I want to but when you pull out and didn't see a car and have to step on it can't get itself out of its own way.The biggest problem I baby this truck always wash it had 5000 dollars of extras stuff I did to the truck including undercoating custom paint running boards spray in bedliner and as well as I took care of it it is rusted out so bad right now there are no rocker panel left the frame is rotted almost in half even the bumpers are rusting through and that should not be that bad on that year truck that has been cared for so well.
accountCircle Katie D
Too many repairs needed on this
This vehicle needs repairs frequently but has lasted quite a bit of time. However for the value of the vehicle the repairs are so costly I wouldn't recommend it.
accountCircle Cheyenne H
Chevy Silverado review for you.
It is reliable and gets me from point A to point B. It just takes too much gas. My breaks are currently going out and it makes a weird clunking noise. It is big and has lots of room for seating. If you keep up the maintenance it is a pretty good vehicle.
accountCircle Nathan B
It has plenty of power to tow stuff.
I like the 4 wheel drive. I dislike the oil usage. I dislike the electrical problems. I dislike the fuel mileage.
accountCircle Ron J
It has issues with break and gas lines rotting out.
A good heavy 4 wheel drive truck. Has a lot of power being a V8. I would like to put a snow plow on it but it is to light for a Fisher plow.
accountCircle Jeff W
My thoughts on my 2005 Chevrolet, f1500 for your reading pleasure.
My vehicle has served me well. I was disappointed with the interior, seats, roof cover did not hold up very well. The roof cover has become detached and I had to tack it back up after 5 years. The seats have holes in them, cloth very thin. I would have thought the exterior would have broken down first with all the use.
accountCircle Jean H
I love the fact that the truck is red.
I have recently had problems with the electrical system(is). The vehicle LOVES gas, as it averages 15.1 miles per gallon. The truck has very comfortable seats, and rides quite smoothly. I miss having the radio, which is probably inoperative, due to the electrical problems.
accountCircle Cody B
It's great in the snow and it uses a lot of gasoline l.
Uses a lot of gasoline. Gets from point a to point b. Good in the snow

What Do Critics Say About the Silverado?

  • Consumer Reports finds the Silverado to be outdated compared to its rivals, with average owner satisfaction scores.
  • Edmunds gives the Silverado 4.4/5, liking the crew cab model’s space, but says interior materials are cheap.
  • Kelley Blue Book users rate the Silverado 4.6/5 and enjoy the powerful engines, but note there’s a lot of rust.

What Common Problems Does the 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Have?

Problems with the 2005 Silverado include malfunctioning speedometers, air conditioning issues, and steering noises.

Speedometer issues are common across Chevy vehicles from 2005 at around 70,000 miles. Replacing the entire instrument cluster costs about $450, and the new version fixes the problem.

Air conditioning problems show up on a lot of trucks at around 75,000 miles. The main source is the blower motor located under the passenger side of the dash. Replacing the resistor is a simple fix which solves the problem can be done for around $100.

Clunking noises from the steering system happen at around 40,000 miles on many trucks. The steering shaft is the source of the problem, and costs about $650 to replace.

There are 16 recalls and a lot of them are serious including the fuel delivery system, which can cause a fire if leaks develop. Other serious recalls involve the wheel hubs, power steering hose, and steering pitman arm, which all lead to a loss of steering control.

How Long Will the 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Last?

A properly maintained 2005 Silverado should last over 250,000 miles, similar to top competitors including the Ram 1500. Maintenance costs are higher than average, according to Repair Pal, at $520 per year.

Most 2005 Silverado models will have over 100,000 miles so prospective buyers should be prepared to replace alternators for $650, the ABS control module costing $550, and radiator fans which cost $475.

accountCircle Jeff E

Runs good, has body damage but for an older vehicle it is not that bad of shape. Very reliable. I would recommend it.

accountCircle Brandon H

Rebuilt tranny and replace thermostat. Heater on the driver size also doesn't work but other than that nada

accountCircle Susan B

Fit and finish on the interior is a little lacking Also the front suspension and brakes have required more maintenance than any other vehicle I've ever owned

accountCircle Joe G

Very reliable. Has some issues but minor where I can fix myself. Love the truck especially because I almost have 300k miles

How Much Is the 2005 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Worth?

Blue book values range from $4,200 – $12,125, making the Silverado about $1,000 cheaper than a top rated competitor like the Tundra. When new, the price range was $19,140 to $39,075. Depreciation is better than average, only losing around 5% of its current value per year.

What are the Different Models of the Silverado?

There are four models of the Silverado 1500 series available. Technology is very outdated with the last update in 2003. There’s a complete redesign with a new infotainment system for the 2007 model year.

Work Truck is the entry-level model with:

  • 17-Inch steel Wheels
  • Vinyl Seating
  • AM/FM Stereo System With 4 Speakers
  • Manual Windows & Locks

LS is a step up adding features such as:

  • 17-Inch Chrome Style Steel Wheels
  • Cloth Seating
  • Power Locks With Remote Keyless Entry
  • 6-Speaker AM/FM/CD Stereo System

Z71 adds some good features including:

  • Off-Road Suspension
  • Fog Lights
  • Unique Front Bumper

LT is the luxury model and comes standard with:

  • 17-Inch Polished Aluminum Wheels
  • Leather Seating
  • Dual-Zone Climate Control
  • Heated Front Seats
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What Engines Come In the Silverado?

  • The base engine is a very weak 4.3L V6 with only 195 horsepower and 260 lb.-ft. of torque that gets up to 16 MPG combined.
  • A step up is the more powerful 4.8L V8, which has 285 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft. of torque, and gets up to 17 MPG combined.
  • The most powerful engine is the 5.3L V8 with 295 horsepower and 335 lb.-ft. of torque, which gets up to 16 MPG combined. Performance is good, taking 7 seconds to reach 60 MPH, and it can tow up to 7,800 pounds.

What Colors Does the Silverado Come In?

How Big Is the Silverado?

The Chevy Silverado is an average sized half-ton truck similar to the F-150 and Ram 1500. There are three cabins available including a 2-door regular cab, 4-door extended cab, and larger 4-door crew cab. Passenger room is good in the crew cab, but cramped in the rest.

There are two bed lengths available including a 6-foot-6-inch regular bed, and 8-foot long bed.

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How Does the Silverado Compare to the Competition?

The Silverado 2500HD is a competitor costing about $8,000 more. Where the 2500 series stands out is with the available diesel engine for towing, otherwise the trucks are similar on the inside. We recommend the 1500 Series to most buyers since they’re cheaper to own.

The Ford F-150 is a popular half-ton rival, which is $500 cheaper. Performance and technology are both better in the F-150, but the interior is nicer in the Silverado. We recommend the F-150 since there are fewer complaints from owners.

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Do Owners Recommend the Chevy Silverado?

accountCircle Jeff E

Yes, I have had it for 10 years and had little work done to it. It is beat and banged but still going.

accountCircle Nicole J

Had to rebuild the transmission and replace the thermostat but it's done proud and still runs like a champ

accountCircle Alyssa J

Yes I like the truck very much I only have a problem with the amount of maintenance on the front suspension and brakes

accountCircle Jewel R

Yes very good. Close to 300,000 miles with highway mileage and dirt roads. Currently has some small issues I need to fix but overall love the truck

Owner Reviews

accountCircle Winpickup on December 21, 2023
Single-cab pickup truck, solid box by Win Pickup Co., Ltd. (Thailand)
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accountCircle Eric on June 15, 2022
One big bummer and then smooth sailing
First of all the crappy tranny that needs a rebuild at 60,000 was depressing. But after that, aside from a pesky random misfire engine light that comes on and off once per year, I would say a good truck. Now at 130K it still is smooth (of course not when the misfire light is on), strong engine and still very quiet and smooth truck. Without the tranny fail, I would have given it 4 stars. The four wheel error light comes on more than it should, but I just purchase a new selector (with one in the glove box)and it goes away. Only broken down once and that was the tranny. Had to have the speedometer fixed, front end work, but expected on a 17-year old truck.
accountCircle Justin Y on May 25, 2021
Just a little about my truck and why I love it
My Chevy is a great truck it has plenty of power and its pretty fast it has a 5.3 liter vortec V8 its has plenty of room inside it can fit up to 5 people comfortably even more if you include how many could fit in the bed of the truck my truck has taken a beating and it still drives like a dream and it has over 160k miles on it it has had minimal motor work done to it amazing truck would not trade I plan on keeping it till it falls apart
accountCircle Stephanie K on May 25, 2021
Oh, the places we'll go
This is the second Silverado I've owned. I love this truck for an all purpose vehicle; I can do my grocery shopping or take my dogs to the dog park and moving things is a breeze! I haven't had any performance issues with it, and I get the oil changed and fluids check on a regular basis. I prefer the fabric seats over the leather. No special features, just a handy, reliable truck to get me from point A to point B.
accountCircle Patrick M on April 1, 2021
Reliable and good to drive.
I do not like the gas mileage. I love how much it can pull. I love the speed of the pick up. I enjoy how much women love it.
accountCircle Sherry H on March 8, 2021
It is a fun truck to drive!!.
There is nothing I dislike about my truck... I like that I can go and do anything in my truck.. Traveling is easy, due to space for luggage..
accountCircle Amanda J on March 4, 2021
Good work truck lot of space in the bed of it.
It is a preowned vehicle, already had to get tires for it and little things are happening to it. I like it because it's a big truck and its automatic but not crazy about the interest on it. Still have 4 more years to pay on it...But at the time we needed a vehicle.
accountCircle La M on February 27, 2021
It is a really great car all around.
None. No complaint on this car.. It is enjoyable and easy to drive. That's all. No more comments on this car..
accountCircle kevin C on February 19, 2021
Very dependable vehicle
Rides nice dependable not very good on gas
accountCircle Monica F on February 18, 2021
I take care of it and it is mine. .
My vehicles are fine. They are paid for. Would love another Jeep wrangler. Do not need any payments of any sort.
accountCircle Jared L on February 18, 2021
The ac is excellent. It would literally freeze you out if you left it on.
I really enjoy driving this vehicle. Pros: The ac and heater are excellent. A lot of room on the inside and in the box. It gets pretty good gas mileage compared to other trucks. Cons: The motor has a slight lifter tick. This is because from 03 to present, Chevy used cheap lifters so after about 90,000 miles it begins to tick. Just a slight tick. Other than that it's a pretty good truck
accountCircle Quanta B on February 17, 2021
Always keep up with the upkeep if your car.
Love it no complaints it get easy to take care of never nothing to hard to get fixed runs great and good on gas most of the times.
accountCircle Katie D on February 8, 2021
Too many repairs needed on this
This vehicle needs repairs frequently but has lasted quite a bit of time. However for the value of the vehicle the repairs are so costly I wouldn't recommend it.
accountCircle Hino A on January 19, 2021
My truck and it is many uses.
Good truck runs well but I have issues getting in and out of it because of my recent leg problem. Also it drives well in the winter time because of the four wheel drive system and had a lot of room to hall stuff for home project sand has slot of pair to two items.
accountCircle Aspen B on January 5, 2021
Very spacious and reliable!
We really love this truck. We drive it everywhere from town all the way up in the mountains! I love that the backseat is very spacious! It leaves enough room for our baby’s car seat and for other people to sit and be comfortable! The seats are very comfortable and make our long trips great!
accountCircle Toni W on January 3, 2021
With a pick up you can travel through rain filled streets with no issues
My 2005 Chevy Silverado pick up is a great truck. It is gold in color. Has all the perks. Electric windows. Electric locks And it runs very smooth
accountCircle Eddie T on December 29, 2020
Why buy a Chevrolet Silverado truck.
Never had any problems with this vehicle. When I bought it there were about five hundred miles on it. I now have 235 thousand miles on it. The on it thing that I have had to it was general maintenance on it. When I buy next vehicle it will be a Chevrolet.
accountCircle David m on December 21, 2020
Is a very rugged and very dependable truck. Minimal maintenance has been needed and now over 200,000 miles.
I like any pickup. I like the smaller bed. I dislike a small cab such as this one, I would like the extended cab.
accountCircle Kate L on December 12, 2020
Our truck is reliable, dependable and sturdy.
We love the dependability of our truck. It has gone through multiple family members and is still running strong with minimal issues. It is a comfortable ride and we have taken it on long trips. We also like having it for the ability to transport large furniture or loads.
accountCircle Rebecca W on December 2, 2020
It is 2 wheel drive and cannot go in mud.
I like it cause it is a truck. The hate the gas mileage on it. It's like 16 mpg. It does have a back seat for car seats which is good.
accountCircle Valerie B on December 1, 2020
The good and the bad of owning a 2005 Chevrolet Silverado.
I have not had any problems. The only bad thing is it is a gas hog the body is starting to rust out a little bit because of the winter weather over the years. I keep routine maintenance on it changing oil brakes rotors.We had to replace the power steering coil and pump a few weeks ago.
accountCircle Alexis D on November 28, 2020
Has 4,8L engine revs faster than the 5.3L engine
Runs great have not ran into any problems besides that it's a gas water just like every other truck, the interior of course is not the best but could be updated with a couple things, pretty spacious in the front but in the back not very, love that it has an LS 4.8 engine can rev faster than the 5.3 but of course the 5.3 will push more
accountCircle Astrid C on November 12, 2020
It's reliable. Great on gas. The parts are easy to find.
The matts are hard to find. No other complaints. I love my truck wouldn't trade it for the world.
accountCircle Cody B on November 10, 2020
It's great in the snow and it uses a lot of gasoline l.
Uses a lot of gasoline. Gets from point a to point b. Good in the snow
accountCircle Dalton G on November 3, 2020
2005 Chevy Silverado 1500.
This pickup is the smoothest driving vehicle I have ever driven. I am very comfortable in it and have rarely had any problems. It is very reliable going back and forth between college and my hometown. I also like the power the vortex engine provides to easily pass people. I would recommend this vehicle to anybody.
accountCircle David S on October 28, 2020
Z71 off-road package, great handling in bad conditions, tow package,
My Chevy 2005 Silverado 1500 is probably the most reliable vehicle that I have owned. It is a 2005 and the only work that have had to do was the oil changes and changing breaks. In 2013 it had gotten a new transmission but that was from a different owner. This truck runs like a gem and I recommend Chevy to everyone that is ask about their performance.
accountCircle Nathan B on October 20, 2020
It has plenty of power to tow stuff.
I like the 4 wheel drive. I dislike the oil usage. I dislike the electrical problems. I dislike the fuel mileage.
accountCircle Chris B on October 16, 2020
That it is reliable and I can bring it anywhere.
The best part of my truck is the reliability, but the worst part is that it is a single cab. It is a v6 so the engine is not super fast or anything. But like I said reliability is everything.
accountCircle Robert F on October 13, 2020
Just an all around excellent pick up truck.
Very reliable, easy to work on and parts are reasonable. Gets great gas mileage. It has a 4. 3 v-6 and an automatic transmission that work great. The resale value is high. It has enough power to pull a medium sized trailer. It seats 3 people comfortably and the air conditioner blows very cold.
accountCircle heather f on October 10, 2020
I like that my truck is full size and dependable. I have 2 kids and I feel like they are very safe traveling in my truck. I like that it has a large back seat so that it has plenty of room for them.
The most important thing is that it is a very safe truck.
accountCircle William G on October 9, 2020
Chevrolet makes all around great vehicles
Chevy Silverado trucks always have and always will be all around great trucks. I've been fortunate enough to not have any issues with my truck. With proper maintenance and taking care of the vehicle, you shouldn't have to worry about having any problems.
accountCircle Jr E on October 7, 2020
One heavy Chevy is a workhorse.
The truck is metallic grey, four wheel drive, automatic, 6 ft bed really good size to fit in tight parking spots, the four wheel drive works great, push button on the fly, does very well in snow, and can pull quite a bit of weight, it seats 6 passengers with plenty of legroom.
accountCircle Anthony P on September 23, 2020
Runs forever. Has good engine. Longest running vehicle around.
Love trucks. Chevy is best. Fast,comfortable. Four doors
accountCircle Tanna S on September 8, 2020
I have a 2005 Chevy Silverado
My Truck has performed well The one thing is as it ages the tailgate latch broke and the drivers side suicide door latch broke. Also the back windows leak when it is raining
accountCircle David K on August 26, 2020
Silverado highlights for the wanting owner!
Great vehicle for family and friends and safety. Gas hog as to be expected. Smooth ride on road dependable while off road.
accountCircle Bryan F on August 21, 2020
Very reliable good running engine with sufficient power .
Very solid reliable truck. Rides very smooth and quietly. Very comfortable truck with sufficient space.
accountCircle Riley B on August 20, 2020
It is a good vehicle. I enjoy driving it and how it looks.
I like that it is a bigger vehicle because I drive on the interstate a lot. I like that it can hold a lot of stuff in the backseat. I like having a box to haul stuff in.
accountCircle Benjamin P on August 17, 2020
Works great for what it is made for.
I have got 180, 000 miles on my truck and never had to work on the motor, however with a 6 inch lift the suspension is not able to hold up and breaks often.
accountCircle Kelsey B on August 15, 2020
It is got lots of storage room.
It has some frame, being rust, because of the back roads. It drives good and I enjoy the rides. The stereo system needs a bit of work but nothing that cannot be fixed.
accountCircle Meghan O on August 11, 2020
It feels safe and rides very smooth.
I like the room of the cab. I like the hauling capabilities. I dislike the cost of maintenance and frequency needed to do so.
accountCircle Kendal K on August 2, 2020
It has plenty of power for pulling loads and a comfortable ride. The brakes are great too
I like the handling and the cloth seats. The aggressive headlights. I don't like that you can't have the windows down without getting blown away. I would prefer a standard cab
accountCircle Ricky K on August 1, 2020
My Chevy Silverado truck it will hit a hundred if I need it to.
It is the vehicle that every man should drive. It hauls all the tools and parts for me to work on my motorcycles. It really stands out on vacation very comfortable on long distance trips. The truck looks great and I wouldn't trade it for any other. My kids and my girlfriend think it is a great truck to love to go riding with me any time I ask. We use it for our family vehicle still wouldn't trade it for any other vehicle.
accountCircle Jean H on July 31, 2020
I love the fact that the truck is red.
I have recently had problems with the electrical system(is). The vehicle LOVES gas, as it averages 15.1 miles per gallon. The truck has very comfortable seats, and rides quite smoothly. I miss having the radio, which is probably inoperative, due to the electrical problems.
accountCircle Kelley R on July 21, 2020
It is economical to use even when hauling heavy loads.
I like the reliability of the vehicle and I dislike that I have to use premium unleaded fuel and that it does not do good on gas mileage unless we're on long trips.
accountCircle Sarah D on July 20, 2020
The Workhorse of a truck.
I love my pick up. The only thing that I have noticed with the first cat eye trucks is the Gage clusters tend to wear out. And also the tumblers for the ignition
accountCircle Caelin C on July 18, 2020
Chevys are durable and long lasting. I feel safe and comfortable knowing that a Chevy is the care I need to get me to and from where I am going.
I love everything about my truck. It has 200,000 miles on it and it still travels well! I would most definitely invest in another Chevy after this one.
accountCircle Joseph D on July 15, 2020
I love looking in my passenger side mirror to watch the coal roll
05 duramax. Didn't come in good shape when we got it but we're slowly fixing it up right and I wouldn't trade it for any other truck
accountCircle Adam P on July 12, 2020
That the Vortec engine is superior to other truck engines.
I like that it is dependable. I like that it is powerful. I like the way it rides and tows.
accountCircle Javier M on July 10, 2020
Highlight of my truck it has over 280,000 miles on it and it is an 05.
Well for starters I am a 3rd generation Chevrolet owner from my grandfather to my father now to me. My truck has over 280,000 miles and still running strong what I love about Chevy is u can find parts anywhere and affordable another thing is it is easy to work on when I need too. It is an older model so I do not have any high tech stuff. I plan to upgrade to a 2020 2500hd soon. The trucks are really the most dependable longest lasting trucks on the road today.
accountCircle Kelsey B on July 3, 2020
It is red and a big pick up.
It drives and rides great. I love it but would like a smaller vehicle because it is not that good on gas.
accountCircle Tracy C on June 28, 2020
Great truck to have for years.
Great motor. I haven't had to replace anything major. A great truck. A lot of room for family outings.
accountCircle Marlyn R on June 20, 2020
It is a very Reliable vehicle
It's comfortable and roomy. Also reliable.
avatar Alex Showalter
Alex is an automotive enthusiast with over 15 years of experience in the used car market. He brings a wealth of knowledge to Vehicle History as our Staff Writer and has written hundreds of used car reviews helping buyers make informed purchasing decisions. He is a member of the Automotive Press Association, and keeps up-to-date on the latest changes in the industry. Over the years, he has driven hundreds of cars, working on many of them. His mechanical experience evolved from modifying off-road trucks as a teen to focusing on automotive electrical systems as he got older. He now specializes in reviewing used cars as an automotive journalist. Some of his favorite brands are Toyota and BMW. The Toyota Land Cruiser is one of his favorite vehicles of all time since they’re built to last forever and can go anywhere. One of his current cars is a Lexus LX570, built on the same platform as the 200-series Land Cruiser, but it’s a better value in the used market.