2009 Chevrolet Traverse Review: Unreliable SUV With Many Expensive Problems

Aug 20, 2022

The 2009 Chevrolet Traverse lasts only around 150,000 miles with serious engine and transmission issues. At $6,278 to $7,719, it’s cheap, but not worth buying since it’ll spend so much time in the shop.

The Good

The suspension is smooth, the back seats are very comfortable with enough legroom for adults and there are more safety features than other big SUVs from 2009.

The Bad

Visibility is poor with the large pillars rear, the steering feels floaty and build quality is subpar compared to rivals.

Is the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse a Good Used SUV?

No, 2009 is a bad year for the Traverse. Owner reviews complain about engine problems, rapid depreciation, and expensive repair costs.
Interior quality is below average, there are a lot of cheap plastic materials used throughout the cabin and the stereo system is very basic.
Reliability ratings are terrible. Models from 2009-2012 all have a lot of engine problems, with some quality improvements on 2013–2017
Performance is worse than average from the standard V6 engine, which is rare for a large SUV.
The 2009 Traverse is a safe SUV, earning a 5-star rating in all government crash tests, but it gets a 4-star rating for rollover risk.
Fuel economy is decent for an SUV its size getting up to 19 MPG, which gives owners about 410 miles of range out of the 22 gallon tank.

Positive Owner Reviews

Pam M

It has three rows, the ac works great, and it has never been wrecked.

I like that it is big and can fit a lot of people and things. I like the color, and that it rides smoothly. I dislike the gas mileage.

Ted H

The car is utilitarian as well as luxurious.

The car is a good comfortable car that is a good utility car as well. When family has lots to things to move or buys material like many gallons of paint or ceramic tile we got the call. The care is very comfortable and handles well. The only drawback is the gas mileage. However we forgot that for all the other great traits.

Tanya G

Great looking large vehicle.

I love this vehicle. We have four children and this car seats eight. The seats are large and comfortable. The interior, even at its age, is still in excellent condition. There is plenty of room in the back for the dogs, groceries and other items. The ride is very smooth. The air conditioning works super great!

Ashley T

It's the total family vehicle that is amazing if you have a lot of kids.

I like how it has captain chairs in the middle row. I have 5 kids and it's so easy for them to get in and out. I like how the navigation helps when I need it. The backup camera with the lines help me back up and not hit anything.

bob s

Great ride and stylish, very comfortable for daily driver and long trips

Room for the whole family. Durable and long lasting. Comfortable and stylish.

Kember K

Has had several recalls, but the manufacturer has serviced them promptly without issues and at no cost to me.

My Traverse is wonderful. It drives smoothly, is very dependable and comfortable. It has tons of room for a family of 5. It has dual TV /DVD players in the back of the front seat headrest allowing two different videos to play for each TV. Great for kids of different ages or preferences. Gets good gas mileage, and has a great sensor system for everything to let you know of issues right away. Also love the electronic hatch open and remote start.

Monica W

The battery is not under the hood it is under the seat.

My car has a lot off room it is 3rd row seats and plenty of room for all my kids. Its is good on gas and rides smooth.

Olga G

The most important thing is that it's a family cat

Drives great, very roomy. It's had several recalls.

Negative Owner Reviews

J M

Reasons not to purchase a Chevrolet traverse:

I own a 2009 Chevrolet traverse and have had problems since purchasing it new. It is definitely not a safe vehicle. It rolls about 3-4 feet while in park. The engine constantly gives out almost to a stale while driving. It is not a reliable vehicle by any means as the steering rack column went at you def 39k miles.

carolyn w

Electrical problems, engine problems. Very roomy and nice but have put a lot of money into it

It is a Chevrolet with a sunroof and a moonroof!

Amanda Wilkerson

Depending on your vehicle should be #1

Absolutely not!!! It's been nothing but trouble since I bought it and isn't worth even half of what I paid for it!!!!-

Rosa L

I bought a 2009 Chevy traverse only for it to be a bad decision.

I bought this vehicle 2 years ago with 105,000 miles on it from a used certified car dealer by gm and I have done nothing but replace part after part. And still stuck in a 6,000$ loan balance. Its disappointing to by a vehicle and pay for an extended warranty that will not cover any of the parts.

Jennifer M

2009 Chevy Traverse review.

I purchased a new 2009 Chevy Traverse. This was my first Chevy purchase. I will most likely not be purchasing another Chevy any time soon. The main reason being that Chevy does not stand behind their recalls and warranties, and you the owner end up paying for recalled items. The powering steering column went at under 39, 000 miles, the tires that were put on the Traverse did not last 80k miles, the Traverse rolls 3-4 feet while in park. It is definitely not a safe vehicle.

ross V

Traverse's are junk and here's why

This car is a oddball , junk car, junk design, junk engine, replaced 3 timing belts needing a 4th, valve seats shot, alternators are junk. Would not have bought but was a cheap new car trade in. Only gave 2,000 for it. Now I know why. May never buy another Chevy again because of this thing.

Andrea G

My first independent car purchase was a lemon

I have had nothing but problems with this car since the day I bought it. I Purchased it used in July 2017. It does not have many bells and whistles. I wanted a fairly bare bones vehicle. It is an eight passenger vehicle which was important to me but it lacks extra space for backpacks and has minimal legroom in the back. The vehicle has Bluetooth capabilities but I've never been able to connect with it. I try to connect with my phone and with the voice activation and neither work. I've had to have two major repairs including timing chain and catalytic converter. Recently I noticed that my door is not even when it closes and water is leaking and when it rains. I'm hoping to sell this car soon as I am not happy driving it. I also have major shaking in the steering column when braking. Brake pads were replaced and rotors were fine. That leads to another major repair, which would be three in 2 years. The sound from the radio is very poor in the back of the vehicle. The seats tend to be difficult to move for access to the back of the vehicle and to lift the third row up I need to climb in the back of the car. I absolutely regret buying this vehicle. It has been a financial pit. I would not recommend purchasing this vehicle.

Jennifer B

It is great for small families, the third row seating really doesn't add much room and cuts down on space if you are traveling with multiple bags and people.

I like that the vehicle is roomy and holds 2 car seats comfortably for my kids. The back is also nice and roomy for groceries and traveling. I have experienced multiple mechanical issues with this vehicle which may be a result of poor maintenance before it came into my possession but it has really made it difficult for me to say I like the vehicle. Also the gas mileage is only so-so.

What Do Critics Say About the Chevrolet Traverse?

Consumer Reports says the Traverse offers a quiet cabinet but not much refinement, and has low owner satisfaction scores.
Edmunds gives the Traverse a 4.1/5, praising the comfortable seats, but doesn’t like the loose steering.
Kelley Blue Book users rate the Traverse 4.2/5 and enjoy the passenger room, but owners don’t like that it does not have a V8 engine.

What Common Problems Does the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse Have?

The common problems found on the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse include excessive oil consumption, steering problems, and transmission failures. Overall, these problems are severe compared to other SUVs from 2009.

Excessive oil consumption is the most widespread issue reported by owners at around 110,000 miles. The gaskets in the engine fail as it gets older, and that leads to more oil being burnt. Replacing the gaskets is a time-consuming process costing about $1,800.

Steering system problems show up on a lot of Traverse models at around 100,000 miles. The steering rack components wear out over time, and have to be replaced. Changing out the steering rack and pinion is expensive, at about $2,000.

Transmission failures are another serious problem mentioned at around 85,000 miles. The gears in the transmission break as the SUV ages. Rebuilding the transmission costs about $2,000, and changing it out for a new unit is around $3,800.

There are 8 recalls, which is average for an SUV from 2009. The most serious recall is for the parking brake cable, which is fixed by installing a new cable. Many other recalls cover seatbelts which aren’t a big concern once they have been changed out.

How Long Will the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse Last?

A well-maintained 2009 Chevrolet Traverse lasts around 150,000 miles, half as long as top rated competitors like the Chevrolet Tahoe. Regular annual maintenance costs are higher than average, according to data from Repair Pal at $724 per year.

Since most 2009 Traverse models will have over 100,000 miles buyers should be prepared to replace items including the camshaft position sensor for $350, valve cover gasket costing $425, and the axle shaft seal which costs around $275.

Kristi H

The traverse has been a very reliable car for us. We have not had any issues with the car since we bought it.

delisa M

Yes it is. I haven't had any major problems or repairs. Love the OnStar feature. I wish it was all wheel drive not just two wheel drive.

Brittany S

It is reliable it does not have any problems. I have not had any issues so far. We tune it up regularly.

Melissa R

Yes. It only had a few major problems but the dealership repaired them. They were issues that any car could have had.

Ashley V

It is decently reliable, it does have some issues with rust and with the shocks and struts, the motor is sound!

T R

It has not given me any major problems or issues, it is an excellent SUV, I cannot complaint about it.

Sara G

The only problem I have is that it uses a lot of gas but other than that I really have not had any problems with my traverse

Megan H

It is reliable and regular maintenance is needed on all vehicles I may need to replace front brakes soon and will need tires soon but I don't drive any long distances so many not need tires for a few more months

How Much Is the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse Worth?

Blue book values range from $6,278 to $7,719, making the Traverse thousands of dollars cheaper than a Chevrolet Tahoe or Ford Expedition. When new, the price range was $29,215 to $41,975. Depreciation is worse than average, losing about 15% of its current value per year.

What are the Different Models of the Chevrolet Traverse?

There are three models of the Traverse offered for the 2009 model year. The first generation of the Traverse was introduced in 2009, and was replaced with the second generation in 2018.

LS is the entry-level model with:

17-Inch Steel Wheels
Cloth Seating
OnStar
6-Speaker AM/FM/CD Stereo With 3.5mm AUX Jack

LT is a step up adding:

18-Inch Alloy Wheels
Heated Side Mirrors
Power Driver’s Seat
Leather Steering Wheel
10-Speaker Bose Stereo System

LTZ is the luxury model and adds:

20-Inch Wheels
Leather Seating
Heated & Ventilated Front Seats
Bluetooth Connectivity
Remote Start
Rearview Camera

281 HP 19 MPG

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LT w/1LT

281 HP 19 MPG

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LT w/2LT

281 HP 19 MPG

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LTZ

288 HP 19 MPG

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What Engines Come In the Chevrolet Traverse?

The engine found in the 2009 Chevrolet Traverse is a weak 3.6L V6 which makes 288 horsepower and gets up to 19 MPG. Performance is average, taking 7.9 seconds to go from 0-60 MPH, but the towing capacity is low for a full size SUV at up to 5,200 pounds.

What Colors Does the Chevrolet Traverse Come In?

How Big Is the Chevrolet Traverse?

The 2009 Chevrolet Tahoe is a full size SUV, but is smaller than many of the competitors including the GMC Yukon and Nissan Armada. Passenger room is good in the first and second row, but the third row has limited legroom and is best suited for smaller children.

Cargo space is worse than other full size competitors with enough space for 4-5 suitcases behind the third row, 7-8 behind the second, and over 15 with all the seats folded flat.

How Does the Chevrolet Traverse Compare to the Competition?

The Chevrolet Traverse is worse than other large SUVs from 2009. There are a lot of mechanical problems and buyers will spend tons of money on repairs as these SUVs age.

The GMC Acadia is a competitor which costs about $500 more. Both SUVs are built on the same platform and share engines, but interior materials are more luxurious in the GMC Acadia. We recommend avoiding both the GMC Acadia and Chevy Traverse for 2009 since they both suffer from the same mechanical issues.

The Honda Pilot is another rival, which costs about $1,500 more. Technology is better in the Honda Pilot, but the Chevy Traverse offers more passenger room and a longer wheelbase. We recommend skipping both the Chevy Traverse and Honda Pilot for 2009 since they both have expensive issues.

Ranks #8 Full Size SUV by Owners

2009 GMC Yukon

4.62

2009 Nissan Armada

4.5

2009 Chevrolet Traverse

3.94

Do Owners Recommend the Chevrolet Traverse?

Kristi H

Yes, it drives very smooth and has lots of room for tall people. It also has a lot of storage room.

delisa M

Yes it is. Lots of space for my family. Love the color. Not many issues. Love the color. Reliable and have had for years.

Brittany S

Yes it is. It fits my whole family and has captain seats. I like the way it drives it is a good vehicle.

Melissa R

Yes it is. I would purchase another one. It is not too bad on gas. Seats can lay down to haul stuff. Good size.

Ashley V

Yes it is a great vehicle, it fits 8 people! We have a large family so we needed 8 seats to accommodate us without spending 50k on a vehicle to equip us.

T R

It is a good vehicle because it is comfortable, drives smoothly and it has not given me any problems since last year which is when I purchased it for a dealer.

Ally E

Yes love my car big enough to haul grandkids drive to work very reliable good features little hard on gas sometimes but still love it

Jennifer R

Yes safe reliable spacious interior comfortable to drive will probably purchase another one same make and model again.

Owner Reviews

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David C on March 30, 2021

It can fit a lot of people and It's not well quality.

It has bad gas mileage. It's a pretty big SUV. Fun to drive unlike most SUVs. Interior has some cheap plastic

Molly K on March 12, 2021

Don't waste your money. Mechanical money pit.

I love my Traverse size, the TV, bucket seats, etc. It has great options, which is wonderful for my family. I do not like the gas milage, the multiple recalls, 2 alternators in a year. Option wise, worth it. Mechanically, not worth it. If I could take back buying it, I would.

Tammy u on March 11, 2021

It is since very dependable vehicle

I love my traverse,it is big enough to haul two hockey bags or golf bags. It's great on vacation as we can take all we need with us and still have lots of room for our comfort. It's been a great vehicle.

Sheila P on March 6, 2021

The mileage on it; the payments & that it is a used vehicle.

I do not like: the # of miles on it, the use of gas; the color, it always has problems. I like the height of it.

Olga G on March 4, 2021

The most important thing is that it's a family cat

Drives great, very roomy. It's had several recalls.

Chris H on February 24, 2021

It holds all the kids that about all it is good for

The timing chain has stretched and the tires are expensive and I have replaced the water pump the alternator the purge solenoid and the transmission went out but was serviced under warranty along with the power steering. I would not recommend this year of vehicle to anyone.

Joy H on February 21, 2021

High safety rated and very economical. And has more room then higher priced cars

Like the size. I like the design. I don't like the Year and mileage I have on car.

Toni W on February 18, 2021

Comfortable, reliable and nice looking.

This vehicle is comfortable. The passenger seat slides back far for a person with knee issues to get in and out of easily. It has been mechanically reliable.

Tessa W on February 10, 2021

Family vehicle, very reliable and lots of space.

I have the Chevy traverse. I updated from a dodge stratus after having my two children due to not having enough room. I didn't really have a certain model when I went looking but I found the traverse and it ran smooth and a great price. I have had the car for about 5 months and still running great. It is a great family car. I love that the seats fold down and make it nice when I have to haul things or need extra room for strollers and etc.

Kim L on January 29, 2021

Replacing the tires is very expensive because of the size of the tires.

Like the seats and room in car. Not so happy with the gas mileage and issues with the tires that I have had.

Judy M on January 6, 2021

Traverse great spacious SUV.

Very comfortable very spacious drives smoothly I love everything about it I love that my family fits good and when we need to buy parts we can find them anywhere..It does not waste a lot of gas very economical to have..I would really recommend it best choice I made.

Shelley C on December 28, 2020

Very dependable car. Great for families. Holds up well.

My vehicle has served me well since buying it new. It is excellent on snow and icy roads. It is comfortable to ride in. I will purchase another one if this one ever dies.

Nikki G on December 24, 2020

It is a great family car, lots of room to cart around kids, dogs and other fun stuff.

I love the 3rd row seating and the fact that the back seats fold down completely flat. It has AWD and a towing package. I also like the heated seats and automatic start in the winter.

Jason B on December 5, 2020

The performance is incredible when maintenance is kept up.

I like the feel of it, I like the interior features. It gets bad gas mileage and burns oil. Parts are expensive to replace.

Pamela A on December 3, 2020

I am most impressed with the easy access for the hatchback.

I really love the spaciousness of the vehicle. Love the features like smooth ride the control panels and the seating. It feels luxurious.

Ashley T on December 2, 2020

It's the total family vehicle that is amazing if you have a lot of kids.

ross V on November 17, 2020

Traverse's are junk and here's why

christina F on November 16, 2020

The height of my vehicle is everything.

I love this truck. I love how its high up. Only issue I have is my warranty expired and that's when everything started to need to be replaced. The breaks get replaced every 2 years. It's a well put car I would definitely go back to getting another Chevrolet in the future.

KariAnn H on November 15, 2020

Never buy a Chevy Traverse

Continued brake problems, The auto start never works, the tail door stops opening, and the list goes on.

Dana P on November 7, 2020

The front passenger side window does not roll down.

I like that it has three rows of seats. I like that it rides smoothly. I do not like that the front passenger side window does not work.

Tanya J on November 3, 2020

Comfortable for families on long trips

I love my traverse. It is very comfortable for a family. We have took my traverse on long family road trips and it is great. I haven't had any problems til recently besides replacing tires and keeping the oil changed. We have had to do a water pump, flex pipe, coils, and 02 sensors.

Zac M on October 25, 2020

The traverse is an all around excellent vehicle, perfect for growing families.

The only issues I have with the vehicle is the dealership I bought it at was extremely lacking in the customer satisfaction side of things.

Lizona J on October 22, 2020

The Traverse is a nice family vehicle. It is roomy and makes a good travel vehicle for families.

I hate the fact that the transmission acted up at 80,000 miles. I like that it drives smooth;y and hasn't had many other problems, beside the transmission. I like the roominess of my vehicle.

Ashley D on October 5, 2020

The car was great at first. But, on down the road it is become a hassle.

It does not have very good gas mileage. And, there is always something wrong with the car. It seems like it is always in the shop. The car was great in the beginning but, the first time it was taken to the shop with a problem it all started. I do believe it is just that Traverse that is limited edition and had a recall on them.

Laura B on October 2, 2020

It has a lot of issues and is not reliable, but has great space and comfort.

I like the space and comfort of this vehicle, it is a great size for our family of 5 plus friends. However, we began having issues pretty early on with the transmission and it is very expensive to fix. It has spent a lot of time in the shop for various reasons and now needs new shocks. I would not purchase this vehicle again.

Raquel M on September 17, 2020

My car problems, this car is good for a family but also might problems

I got my car from a used car lot since I got it I have had many problems with it. One of them was a chain and was able to use the warranty the Chevrolet provided it was covered under the miles it would have been an expensive part if it wasn't covered. Also had some part of the transmission wrong with it expensive to fix. Another thing I think was the coils which is also expensive since they had to take everything out to get to them and I feel like it has problems for me

Emma S on September 17, 2020

Oil Change problems, comfy seats, lots of room (enough for eight people so accommodates larger families)

Easy to maneuver with backup camera, able to get out of difficult driving situations

Tara M on September 11, 2020

It is a very good quality vehicle.

I love the size. I like that is handles really well and rides smooth. And it is roomy. I hate that the newer models seem smaller.

John K on September 9, 2020

This vehicle is perfect vehicle for large families.

This Chevy Traverse is a decent vehicle to have. It has plenty of space. My one concern is that the air conditioning never works no matter how many times you fix it.

Andrea G on August 30, 2020

My first independent car purchase was a lemon

Susan O on August 10, 2020

It has great safety features such as extra airbags.

I love the way it drives and engine pick up when passing people if needed. It is comfortable and plenty of room if you put third seat down for hauling whatever needed. I dislike that it has needed a lot of work several catalytic converters and engine.

Michaelene D on August 6, 2020

The car is easy to drive and can comfortably seat a family of 6 with one open seat.

I like that it seats 7 people and there are 2 bucket seats. It is easier to get to the back row. The console screen allows us to play DVDs. The connected screen for the back seats stopped working several years ago and we haven't ever had it fixed/replaced. The handling is more like a car, but we sit much higher. It has automatic transmission, and is easy to handle. I like the little screen for backing up in my rearview mirror.

Linda R on August 3, 2020

The middle seat belt is broken and it can poke you.

I like it because it is roomy, an i can haul lots of groceries. No complaints.

Kinaya t on July 24, 2020

It is always messing up. I would not recommend the car to anyone.

It is always something wrong with my vehicle. Every time it gets out the shop it goes right back in. I like the vehicle but, not the 2009 model.

Johanna B on July 22, 2020

With the money that I have spent on vehicle repairs in the last 10 years, I could have saved and bought a brand new vehicle

I like the size of the vehicle and the fold-down seats in the back, but five years and I had to replace the entire transmission and steering system and have had multiple other issues with the car ever cents. I will never buy a traverse again .

Lisa A on July 21, 2020

I love the paint color but will not buy a Chevy again.

Since owning this vehicle I have had a front fender replaced for rusting out, electrical issues, windows stopped working, door locks wont work with remote anymore, disgusted and wont buy a Chevy again. Have replaced wheel bearings, brakes and had to have underneath under coated for rust issues.

TODD K on July 17, 2020

One well built car, you'll be able drive this vehicle with a peace of mind

It handles and drives like a dream. It has plenty of cargo space. Overall it's one fantastic vehicle.

Tiarra L on July 15, 2020

People should know to expect repairs. Also there isn't a big price difference between the years so you might as well get as new of a vehicle as possible. Expect repairs and don't delay getting them completed.

I love the features of my SUV. It is spacious and has navigation and a DVD player for the kids. Overall it is really nice.

Amanda Wilkerson on July 13, 2020

Depending on your vehicle should be #1

Absolutely not!!! It's been nothing but trouble since I bought it and isn't worth even half of what I paid for it!!!!-

Violet V on July 10, 2020

My Traverse in a snapshot

I love my traverse it's really good on gas and big and roomy and the overhead TV entertains my youngest son. I haven't had to do much Maintenance besides oil and tire changes and I use high grade gas but it isn't as often as with my other vehicles. I would buy another Traverse in the future

Joy S on July 7, 2020

Comfort style and durability.

I enjoy the comfort. I enjoy the size. I enjoy having OnStar. This car has a high safety rating and will be looking at this model again when I trade this one in.

Zac M on July 3, 2020

It's a very dependable vehicle. Good for small to mid sized families to comfortably get around. Great on gas l but still has enough in the engine to get up and go.

To be honest I love this vehicle. Really the only complaints I have aren't with the car at all but with the dealership that sold me the vehicle. I would definitely recommend this vehicle to anyone and I will be looking to purchase a new one in the future.

Jennifer K on June 29, 2020

2009 Traverse it rides nice and is very spacious.

I own a 2009 Chevrolet Traverse. My favorite part about this car is that it is roomy for my four kids, but yet pretty much fits into any parking spot. The Traverse has a nice comfortable ride as well you don't feel every bump on the road. I love my heated seats, and how much room my kids have in it. I also feel very safe in my Traverse. I would definitely buy another Traverse.

Melissa R on June 21, 2020

Lots of features like cup holders for kids and extra space.

I love my car. It has lots of features such as cup holders and extra space. I do wish it had a different kind of track system in the floor for the seats. They are hard to clean out when kids drop stuff in them. I like that the back seats lay flat if I need that space to carry stuff.

Emily R on June 21, 2020

It uses a lot of gas in town.and.on highway. Not economical

A lot of things go wrong with it. Its roomy. I like the third row but wish there was easier access.

J M on June 12, 2020

Reasons not to purchase a Chevrolet traverse:

Michael D on June 4, 2020

The price was right, and it is easy to drive.

I like the smooth ride. I do not like how many gallons it has. I like the way the vehicle looks. I don't like the price.

Misty V on May 29, 2020

Great family car for large families. Tons of leg room.

Love the dual sunroofs. Love all the room. Love how it drives.

Kara T on May 12, 2020

It can fit so many things/people.

Like the automatic hatch and reverse camera. Love the captain passenger seats. Had to do a lot of service work since I bought it but it is just because of age. Overall I love my car.

Ann B on May 3, 2020

Fits all the family (7) when we take a family trip out of town.

Fits the whole family. Good on gas, drives smooth and for camping fits all my camping gear. We use it when we travel because it is comfortable.

Alex Showalter

Alex is an automotive enthusiast with over 15 years of experience in the used car market. He brings a wealth of knowledge to Vehicle History as our Staff Writer and has written hundreds of used car reviews helping buyers make informed purchasing decisions. He is a member of the Automotive Press Association, and keeps up-to-date on the latest changes in the industry. Over the years, he has driven hundreds of cars, working on many of them. His mechanical experience evolved from modifying off-road trucks as a teen to focusing on automotive electrical systems as he got older. He now specializes in reviewing used cars as an automotive journalist. Some of his favorite brands are Toyota and BMW. The Toyota Land Cruiser is one of his favorite vehicles of all time since they’re built to last forever and can go anywhere. One of his current cars is a Lexus LX570, built on the same platform as the 200-series Land Cruiser, but it’s a better value in the used market.